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Post subject: sidux 2007-01 preview 1  PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 09:19 PM



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It's been a while since our latest status report, now I have the pleasure to announce the first public preview for sidux 2007-01. Please note this is not the final release. The full featured final release of sidux-2007-01 "Χάος" will be ready in 1-2 weeks (i686 and amd64), intermediate xdeltas will be provided as needed until then.

This release mostly is a proof of concept for the sidux building environment, the co-operation of our teams and to discuss the final packages list with our users - now is the time to discuss and lobby for meta tasks to install additional software for the final release. It's completely based on Debian Sid and enriched & stabilized with sidux own packages and scripts. It comes with kernel 2.6.19.2, which is based on the most recent vanilla kernel together with several patches for improved hardware support. Other special purpose kernels are available from the sidux servers and will be accompanied by experimental 2.6.20-rc variants for testing soon.

Now to the interesting topics, like what's on the menu for now:
- amd64 (AMD64, Intel Core2, newer 64 bit capable Pentium 4 CPUs (watch for the "lm" flag in /proc/cpuinfo or use infobash -v 3) and i686 (pentium pro/ pentium II or newer).
- debian sid, up to date as of 2007-01-24 19:00 UTC.
- kernel 2.6.19.2 (smp, voluntary preemption).
- minimal, but fully functional KDE 3.5.5 (en + de).
- completely overhauled live mode.
- largely adapted installer.
- new graphical installer frontend.
- netcardconfig can cope with wpa/ wpa2 again.
- offline manual for en + de directly on the disc, online manuals for more languages online at http://manual.sidux.com/; a big thank you goes to the documentation and translation teams!
- a completely new ISO creation process written from scratch in a clean room environment.

What hasn't made it into the preview yet:
- merging the great artwork from Cathbard and cleary hasn't happened completely yet, it will appear until the final release.
- we're working with a small package list for now, to ease up testing, further xdelta patches and to leave some headroom for discussions which of your package wishes can become part of the final ISO.
- we cannot provide an updateinstall due to largely changed technical concepts in favour of providing a clean debian sid based system.
- the preview contains only DFSG free software, this affects hardware support for devices that need non-free components, such as firmwares (see below).

Hints for hardware with non-free needs:
(after adding contrib/ non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list and ensuring internet access)
- ATi Radeon graphics: 3d acceleration for older cards up to r35x should work, newer Radeon X1xxx cards need non-free drivers for accelerated performance, please use get-sidux-binary-gfx to fetch install scripts for these cards.
- Atheros/ "madwifi" wlan: m-a a-i madwifi.
- Atmel AT76c50x 11 MBit/s wlan: apt-get install atmel-firmware
- AVM ISDN/ ADSL PCI/ USB Karten: AVM's closed source driver are not compatible with kernel 2.6.19.x yet, please download kernel 2.6.18.x (http://sidux.net/files/kernel/) for now and use m-a a-i avm.
- Broadcom/ bcm43xx wlan: apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter.
- Eagle USB ADSL modem: fetch the firmware from http://eagle-usb.org/ueagle-atm/non-free/ and place it under /lib/firmware/.
- DVB firmwares for various full featured DVB TV cards (most budget cards won't need this): fetch the needed firmeware (check dmesg) from http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/firmware/ and place it under /lib/firmware/.
- hostap based 11 MBit/s wlan with loadable firmware (e.g. D-Link DWL-520 rev. E1 and others): http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/dwl520e1.html
- Intel ipw2100, 11 MBit/s wlan: fetch the firmware from http://ipw2100.sf.net/ and place it under /lib/firmware/.
- Intel ipw2200, 54 MBit/s wlan: fetch the firmware from http://ipw2200.sf.net/ and place it under /lib/firmware/.
- Intel ipw3945, 54 Mbit/s wlan: apt-get install ipw3945d firmware-ipw3945
- Intersil prism54, 54 MBit/s wlan: fetch the firmware from http://prism54.org/firmware/ and place it under /lib/firmware/.
- nVidia graphics: 3d acceleration isn't possible with free drivers yet, please use get-sidux-binary-gfx to fetch install scripts for these cards.
- Texas Instruments ACX100 (22 Mbit/s)/ ACX111 (54 MBit/s) wlan, fetch the firmware from http://acx100.erley.org/acx_fw/acx1xx.htm and place it under /lib/firmware/.
- ZyDAS zd1202 11 MBit/s wlan: apt-get install zd1201-firmware
- ZyDAS zd1211 54 MBit/s wlan: fetch the firmware from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=129083 and place it under /lib/firmware/.
We will check if we can provide packages for at least some of these devices, but the legal status isn't necessarily easy.

This is still a preview, please help us to improve the final release with testing an reporting all issues you encounter, especially:
- the new graphical installer.
- boot cheats like fromiso, toram.
- new installer for nvidia & ati gfx drivers.
- operations with SCSI or S-ATA optical drives.
- general operations as a whole.

Roadmap
sidux-2007-01 "chaos" - calender week 5-6 2007
sidux-2007-02 "tartarus" - calender week 16-17 2007
sidux-2007-03 "gaia" - calender week 27-28 2007
sidux-2007-04 "eros" - calender week 40-41 2007
sidux-2008-01 "nyx" - calender week 3-4 2008
sidux-2008-02 "erebus" - calender week 15-16 2008

Disclaimer:
This is experimental software. Use at your own risk. The sidux project, it's developers and team members (all represented by the sidux Foundation, Inc) cannot be held liable under any circumstances for damage to hardware or software, lost data, or other direct or indirect damage resulting from the use of this software. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, you are not permitted to use or further distribute this software.

Download URLs, please give the mirrors some time to synch:
http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/sidux/preview/ (Technische Universität Carolo-Wilhelmina zu Braunschweig, Germany)
ftp://ftp.spline.de/mirrors/sidux/ (Freie Universität Berlin/ Institut für Informatik, Germany)
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/sidux/ (Vienna University of Technology, Austria)

Special thanks go to the whole sidux development team:
Joaquim Boura (x-un-i)
Roland Engert (RoEn)
etorix
Bernard Gray (cleary)
Andreas Hausmann (Bodhi)
Chris Hildebrandt (slam)
Ralph Hokanson Jr. (piper)
Harald Hope (h2)
Kel Modderman (kelmo)
Stefan Lippers-Hollmann (slh)
Ferdi Thommes (devil)
Horst Tritremmel (hjt)
Niall Walsh (bfree)
Trevor Walkley (bluewater)
Andreas Weber (webera)
and many more

Thanks for making this possible:
Stefan Lippers-Hollmann (slh)
 
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Post subject: sidux 2007-01 preview 1  PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 10:31 PM



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slh,
das hätte können auch ruhig in DEU geschrieben worden sein Wink

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Post subject: sidux 2007-01 preview 1  PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 10:37 PM
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Naja, in Russisch war es ja flott in den News! Wink
I feel honored and proud to be part of this exiting team - thank you slh & teams!
Greetings,
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Post subject: sidux 2007-01 preview 1  PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 10:42 PM



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Sinngemäße deutsche Übersetzung:

Die erste öffentliche Preview von sidux-2007-01 "Χάος" ist da! Also: Saugen, testen, Spaß haben! Wink

Bin grade am downloaden. Mist, war ja klar, grade heute, wo ich mal früher ins Bett gehen wollte *gg*
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 10:48 PM
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wirklich tolle arbeit - vielen dank an slh und das gesamte sidux team.

habe gerade sidux auf VMWare installiert. Läuft alles bestens.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 11:01 PM



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Läuft problemlos live auf meinem Laptop. Jetzt gibt es ne HD-Install in eine frei gehaltene Partition auf dem Desktop.

Danke an das gesamte Team. Super Leistung.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 11:12 PM



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Erst mal herzlichen Glückwunsch für das was ihr in der kurzen Zeit geleistet habt.

Leider kommt jetzt auch gleich die erste Fehlermeldung. ich kann weder die 32 noch die 64 Bit Version booten.

nach grub laufen erst ein paar Meldungen durch und irgendwann kommen sehr viele Zeilen mit
looking for cdrom in: /dev/xyz
und irgendwann
can't find sidux filesystem, sorry
Dropping you to a (very limited) shell (die ist so limited, daß nur noch der Netzschalter funktioniert)
Press reset button to quit
(static/ash: can't access tty; job control turned off

md5 der Isos habe ich kontrolliert, die md5 der gebrannten CDs nicht, aber da ich mit der niedrigsten Geschwindigkeit gebrannt habe und Rohlinge benutze mit denen ich noch nie Probleme hatte, halte ich defekte CDs für unwahrscheinlich.
Bei 64 Studio hatte das gleiche Problem.

Mein System: FSC Esprimo P5615 Athlon 64 X2 mit nvidia nforce4 Chipsatz, 2 Festplatten, 1 DVD Brenner, alles SATA.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 11:29 PM
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hast du fromiso versucht zu machen?
da fehlen anscheinend die entsprechenden module.
install per cd sollte gehen.
falls nicht, bitte im bugs-forum weiter posten.

greetz
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 05:42 AM



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Gratulation!!!

das sieht bis hier schonmal super aus, bootet flott auch mit meiner betagten kiste (duron 900). Vielen dank an euch alle, werde erst in den nächsten tagen testen können.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 10:21 AM



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Hallo zusammen,

ich habe die CD erst einmal mit fromiso starten wollen,
da ich bei Testversionen nicht gleich eine CD opfern will.

Doch trotz Vorgehen nach der Anleitung im Handbuch (so wie ich es auch bei Kanotix gemacht habe) findet das Bootmedium die iso nicht, trotz Durchlauf durch alle Partitionen.

Nun wüsste ich gern einmal, was ich da ändern könnte.

Doch zwischenzeitlich habe ich die iso doch auf CD gebrannt.

Komischerweise startete sie das erstemal durch bis zum Desktop,
doch beim zweitenmal kam es nicht mehr bis zur grafischen Oberfläche, sondern endete mit irgendwelchen Meldungen: Segmentation ....

Gebrannt ist die CD mit 4facher Geschwindigkeit, weniger geht bei meinem Brenner nicht.

Schade, denn ich fände es schon gut, wenn ich sidux auch so einmal testen könnte.

Gruss
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 11:29 AM



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super gemacht, es klappt alles !

eine anmerkung: wäre es möglich, im installer bei der nutzereinrichtung ein feld einzufügen dass ermöglicht,
die uid/gid manuell einzugeben ?

mit grossem dank ans team!
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 11:37 AM
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manfred,
was fromiso angeht, so fehlen wohl noch module für die unterstützung von sata/scsi devices, normales ata geht aber.
wenn deine cd beim ersten mal durchbootet und dann nicht mehr, ist das seltsam.
checke bitte erst mal die cd mit testcd als bootparameter.

greetz
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 11:51 AM



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Hi devil,
Super Arbeit abgeliefert. Ein kleiner Wermutstropfen für mich bleibt noch den der LogicalVolumeManager (LVM2) fehlt noch Sad
Ich habe das Metapaket GenericServer im Wiki dahingehend abgeändert.

Dank an das sidux-Team !!

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 01:32 PM



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Hallo zusammen noch einmal.

Bei meiner CD habe ich nodma angegeben, dann ging es doch.

Danke für den Tipp, devel!

Noch etwas: in der VirtualBox (installiert unter WindowsXP) habe ich mal sidux installiert.

Das hat geklappt, habe jetzt 1280x1024 Auflösung.

Ich schreibe dies grad aus iceweasel, der installiert wird, wenn man
apt-get install mozilla-firefox eingibt.

Mit 256 MB RAM (von insgesamt 512) geht es etwas langsam,
aber immer noch so, dass sidux nuttzbar ist.

Also auch von mir grosse Anerkennung für die Arbeit.

Gruss
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 25, 2007 - 01:57 PM



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Und ich habe heute und morgen dermaßen viel um die Ohren, dass ich wohl überhaupt erst am Samstag zum ersten Testen komme Sad

Glückwunsch an alle, welche zu sidux beigetragen haben und beitragen,

hubi

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