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Post subject: Whats going on ? (1st boot failure) and the "SAGA"
 Posted: Sep 21, 2008 - 03:54 PM
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Ok so the saga is like this.......
got to move out of the "office" (small spare bedroom) as the head ferret wants to decorate......
Yes, I've got permission to buy a new, flat screen monitor, because "I'm not having that bloody great dinosaur in my dining room. It takes up too much space".
Ok, so after a little research, I set my sights on an IIYAMA Prolite E2202WS - it looks reasonably well spec'd and reasonably priced.
On friday, I start moving the PC and other kit downstairs - plug it all up, only to find that for reasons I don't understand, my faithful sidux install won't let me set the correct resolution.
After a good few hours of meddling, I managed to screw things up so badly, that it looked like the best option was to install something that might recognise and setup the monitor straight away. The only distro I had to hand was a Kubuntu disc.
Duely installed, it was time to start getting everything set back to how it was before...
So, after also finding out that my broadband connection is playing up (VVV slow, havent worked out why - but I suspect it's because tiscali bought out my ISP recently  ) I've spent a lot of time reconfiguring things etc.
This afternoon I was trying to configure a network printer......and for reasons I don't follow, the Kubuntu packages for hp printers (hpoj etc) didn't have a driver for my printer. I find out that I had to install hplip from an executable file from sourceforge.
While I was doing that, something seems to have wiped out the video driver and I could only get some hideously low resolution - but it was enough to burn to disc the version of sidux I'd downloaded overnight - the 2008-02 version (dunno what it's actually called as I don't speak any greek).
Nuts to the kubuntu thinks me, I can have my faithful sidux back.....wrong!
The install seems to have gone ok, I managed to md5sum the download ok, except when I boot into it for the first time I get as far as a screen message telling me that /bin/bash can't open the tty as the "job has been switched off"
I decide that my meddling might have hit a key or something that's caused it to play up. I run the install routine again. I then get the same comment, followed by a kernel panic.
At the time of writing this, I've managed to install sabayon linux off the front of this months linux format magazine. I don't know what to do about the sidux......It wouldn't even let me configure my network card to try and run it as a live CD to ask questions/post here....
It's been a "very bad computer weekend" - and I'm also milling 10kg of apples in my food processor at the same time (at least the resulting cider will be drinkable  )
Anyone got any ideas about what might be going wrong and what I can do about it please ?
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Post subject: Re: Whats going on ? (1st boot failure) and the "SAGA&q
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 - 04:01 PM
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fatbloke wrote:
Ok so the saga is like this.......
got to move out of the "office" (small spare bedroom) as the head ferret wants to decorate......
Yes, I've got permission to buy a new, flat screen monitor, because "I'm not having that bloody great dinosaur in my dining room. It takes up too much space".
Ok, so after a little research, I set my sights on an IIYAMA Prolite E2202WS - it looks reasonably well spec'd and reasonably priced.
On friday, I start moving the PC and other kit downstairs - plug it all up, only to find that for reasons I don't understand, my faithful sidux install won't let me set the correct resolution.
With older graphics cards, one needs to modify xorg.conf _before_ you plug the new monitor in (that sucks! but it has always been this way...).
Therefore, to be able to help the following information is needed:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (before you hack it)
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (after you hacked it, if you did)
/var/log/Xorg.0.log (after you Xserver failed to start)
a good description of your graphics hardware (eg, infobash -v3) |
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Post subject: Re: Whats going on ? (1st boot failure) and the "SAGA&a
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 - 05:10 PM
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kelmo wrote:
With older graphics cards, one needs to modify xorg.conf _before_ you plug the new monitor in (that sucks! but it has always been this way...).
Therefore, to be able to help the following information is needed:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (before you hack it)
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (after you hacked it, if you did)
/var/log/Xorg.0.log (after you Xserver failed to start)
a good description of your graphics hardware (eg, infobash -v3)
Ok, so I get that - even though I wouldn't know what actually needs modification in the xorg.conf
Surely the newly downloaded, more recent version should detect the monitor correctly ???
I just don't know what to do about that at the moment, other than re-download it (despite the md5sum of the version I have got showing up as OK).
I have absolutely no idea what's going on there, or why it doesn't want to install.........
Especially as I'm finding out that Sabayon is nearly as slow as a full blown Gentoo when it comes to installing packages 
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Post subject: RE: Re: Whats going on ? (1st boot failure) and the "SA
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 - 06:17 PM
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paste "lspci -nn | grep VGA" output please
one pretty fast way i already did go:
1) conntect monitor to turned off computer,
2) boot with live-cd
3) if everything is fine: copy xorg.conf that was generated by live-cd to the hdd
4) boot to init 3 of hdd install
5) replace xorg.conf by the one generated in step 3
6) try: init 5 |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Whats going on ? (1st boot failure) and the &quo
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 - 10:28 PM
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absolut wrote:
paste "lspci -nn | grep VGA" output please
one pretty fast way i already did go:
1) conntect monitor to turned off computer,
2) boot with live-cd
3) if everything is fine: copy xorg.conf that was generated by live-cd to the hdd
4) boot to init 3 of hdd install
5) replace xorg.conf by the one generated in step 3
6) try: init 5
Ok, thanks absolut.
I'm just finishing up installing kde in this sabayon install - so that I can burn the newly downloaded iso with k3b (I know there's probably ways of doing that from command line or something I just don't know how it's done).
Once I've got the disc burned I can install and then see what happens. I'll have printed off your instruction and see if that works.
With any luck it should also allow me to configure the network card - as the live CD that is.
Again, TVM I'll post back how I get on.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Whats going on ? (1st boot failure) and the &
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 - 10:45 PM
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fatbloke wrote:
I'm just finishing up installing kde in this sabayon install - so that I can burn the newly downloaded iso with k3b (I know there's probably ways of doing that from command line or something I just don't know how it's done).
manual has it all:
http://manual.sidux.com/en/cd-no-gui-burn-en.htm |
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Posted: Sep 23, 2008 - 06:22 PM
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Doesn't matter, because when I'd finished installing the sabayon - so I had something to use, I md5sum'd the download, which proved ok, so I burned the disc without any apparent problems.
The disc boot's fine, but when it comes to trying to get online the network configuration app "Ceni" just keeps telling me that there's no network adapter found.
Which is obviously rubbish, because I'm here posting using the same network card that Ceni can't apparently see!
I have not idea how to progress from there..........
regards
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