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RichJ
Post subject: [solved] Partition permissions  PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 10:54 AM



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Good morning folks Smile
My planned Windows install fell down completely - no technical issues involved, let's just call them outside influences. To that end, my laptop is now a sidux only machine, which quite frankly pleases me no end.

That said, I just wonder if someone can point me in the right direction with a permissions problem. I've poked around here and the manual but perhaps I missed something.

I have two fat32 areas that I'd like to copy stuff to from an external HDD.
The external drive says the user (me) has permissions to write, read, etc.
But my sda3 partition and sdb drive are both stuck on root only.

So, simple question, how can I change that?

Much obliged as always!
R


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Post subject: Partition permissions  PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 10:58 AM
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are sda3 and sdb partitions in /etc/fstab?
if so, please show corresponding lines

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Post subject: Partition permissions  PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 10:59 AM



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Show us the output of:

mount
cat /etc/fstab

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 11:03 AM



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mount:

Code:
root@TM2-sidux:~# mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/sda2 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
/dev/sdc1 on /media/CLASSIC SL type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uhelper=hal,flush,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)


cat /etc/fstab:
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<filesystem>                                <mount point>                  <fstype>        <mount options>                          <dump> <pass>

UUID=95dbc089-2132-4476-8e2f-6efcb3ce521d     /                              ext3            defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime         0      1

UUID=949a988b-c875-4558-92b4-122be0ad7e2c     /home                          ext3            defaults,noatime                           0      2

/dev/disk/by-uuid/629664C8099DAB6E            /media/disk1part3              ntfs            auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8   0      0

/dev/disk/by-uuid/6C65B6F7287369CB            /media/disk2part1              ntfs            auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8   0      0

/dev/cdrom                                    /media/cdrom                   udf,iso9660     noauto,ro,users                            0      0



OK - looking at the fstype column, it shows sda3 and sdb as being ntfs, but I formatted them to fat32 using gparted this morning. *scratches head*
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 02:15 PM
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you have to do changes in fstab manualy (other than during installation)

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 03:03 PM



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Cool - but what do I need to change and how?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 06:23 PM



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Change:
Code:
/dev/disk/by-uuid/629664C8099DAB6E            /media/disk1part3              ntfs            auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8   0      0

/dev/disk/by-uuid/6C65B6F7287369CB            /media/disk2part1              ntfs            auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8   0      0

to
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/dev/disk/by-uuid/629664C8099DAB6E            /media/disk1part3              vfat            auto,users,umask=000   0      0

/dev/disk/by-uuid/6C65B6F7287369CB            /media/disk2part1              vfat            auto,users,umask=000   0      0

if you think, these partitions are the correct partitions.
But i would say, the UUID has changed with the reformating in gparted, so set also the right UUID!

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 06:51 PM



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Thanks for that towol, but still showing as root only.
Here are the latest mount and /etc/fstab results:

mount:
Code:
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/sda2 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
/dev/sda3 on /media/disk1part3 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/disk2part1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000)


fstab:
Code:
<filesystem>                                <mount point>                  <fstype>        <mount options>                          <dump> <pass>

UUID=95dbc089-2132-4476-8e2f-6efcb3ce521d     /                              ext3            defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime         0      1

UUID=949a988b-c875-4558-92b4-122be0ad7e2c     /home                          ext3            defaults,noatime                           0      2

/dev/disk/by-uuid/492A-7FDD                   /media/disk1part3              vfat            auto,users,umask=000                       0      0

/dev/disk/by-uuid/492A-7FDF                   /media/disk2part1              vfat            auto,users,umask=000                       0      0

/dev/cdrom                                    /media/cdrom                   udf,iso9660     noauto,ro,users                            0      0


I updated the UUID info as suggested too.
I also checked out Krusader in root mode and tried to change the owner/group for each drive but was told that I had inadequate permissions to do so.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 08:07 PM



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My vfat partition in fstab :

Code:
/dev/disk/by-uuid/465D-45FC   /media/sdb7   vfat   auto,users,exec,shortname=mixed,quiet,umask=000,iocharset=utf8   0 0

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 08:25 PM



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Thanks drb - i added the 'exec' part and that seemed to work. Tried by adding a test folder and copying a couple of photos over.
thanks all for your help.
And I've learned more about the innards of sidux too.
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008 - 10:56 PM



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hmmm, ok ill ask, icant help my self.
If its a sidux only machine why dont u choose a native linux FS like xfs,ext3,reserfs etc.?

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008 - 07:44 AM



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Delta, the answer to your question is very simple:
I'm a shiny new Linux user fresh out of the Windows (dis)comfort zone where I've never really had to think about any of this stuff. Or if I have thought about it, I've certainly been unable to do anything about it. Over the years, I've heard many people talk about various Linux platforms and, to be honest, I hadn't a clue what they were going on about. My own research only served to confuse me more so I stayed locked up in my little Windows bubble. Then one day a friend suggested I give sidux a try (I was sure he was having me on as I've seen several comments since suggesting that it is not an ideal choice for beginners). I took the plunge, struggled a little and then some friendly forum types helped me tread water.
Given time, I hope to be able to swim on my own, without rubber arm bands, and maybe even gain my bronze swimming certificate (or whatever the Linux equivalent is!).
With the few questions I've asked and the responses received so far, all these tips are sinking in to my head - a blank canvas if you will. I've already learned a lot in the short week since the switch!

So, bearing that in mind, is there any particular method of formatting that is generally recommended/preferred by anyone? Or are they all just better than anything that Windows could ultimately read? Wink
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008 - 10:11 AM
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Richj,
it can't be said generally that sidux is not for beginners. I taught sidux and its predecessor kanotix to a group of people between 60 - 70 of age in our communitycenter, most of which had near to zero computer experience. after 15 hours in 2 weeks teaching they were doing fine for their purpose (mail, internet, office).
that led me to believe that the more windows knowledge starters have (win admin syndrome) Wink it might be hindering them.
on the other hand, if someone is interested in linux, the way it works and the freedom and reward it gives (you being the boss of your system, not the other way around, as in windows) and is willing to invest some time and a few braincells (step learning curve in the beginning) they can master it.

re filesystems: for a linux only system fat32 is not needed, ext3 is fine for that.
fat32 might be handy for external harrdisks that get carried around and connected to win boxes or for pendrives.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008 - 10:48 AM



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Devil, I am certainly interested in being able to fix any problems that might arise myself, rather than waiting for some MS monkey to make a fix that will, inevitably, lead to other problems further down the line. I like the idea of there being actual people that can help fix a problem too.
So yeah, I've got the time and the braincells and I'm ready to learn!

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I use my fat32 partition for sharing files - virtualbox and wireless networks to MS laptops

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